How To Clean A Coat A Frame Of A Truck
Thread: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in information technology. Advice needed
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09-13-2016,09:18 PM #i
new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
Hey all,
I have a 2022 Dodge Durango which I bought used, and I`thou in the process of giving information technology a thorough detail.
I am finding a lot of sand and red clay sediment in the box sections/frame rail of the chassis (it`southward a unibody vehicle). And so far I`ve run a garden hose through it and flushed until the h2o comes out clear. Don`t believe information technology`s been flooded - it looks more like information technology`s been driven on a embankment and sand has accumulated in the box sections.
The insides of the frame rails feel a fiddling greasy to the bear upon - I`one thousand not sure if this is from the dirt soil or from some kind of protectant that was on there.
I`d like to keep this car a long time so want it to last - what are the best processes for one) cleaning out any remaining sand and clay and 2) protecting the runway from the insides? And then far all I`ve done is fresh water - no detergent or chemicals.
Thank yous very much
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09-fourteen-2016,06:41 AM #two
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
do you have access to a pressure washer? i wouldn`t hesitate to use detergents or degreasers if needed. a good leafage blower when y'all`re done to clear upwards any standing water. don`t know what to tell yous almost inside the rails, they do sell undercoating in spray cans but many don`t advise the use of undercoatings anymore.
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09-xiv-2016,xi:51 AM #3
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in information technology. Advice needed
Wolfe- This is, sadly, a cautionary tale about what you can observe later you get a new-to-yous vehicle home and showtime looking at stuff closely. Promise you lot get it squared away then it lasts a skilful long time.
There are products made specifically for coating the inside of frame runway. They`ll even neutralize/arrest (if not truly "kill") pocket-sized existing rust. The one I`d recommend is Eastwood`s Internal Frame Coating Eastwood Internal Frame Coating 14oz Aerosol Messy stuff though, it gets *everywhere*, which is skillful for nooks and crannies in the frame but bad for making a royal mess if it gets out through some seams/holes/etc.
Done properly, and that`s a biggie, this *specific arroyo to this specific business organisation* shouldn`t atomic number 82 to the sort of bug that DIY Rustproofing frequently can (namely odd "pockets" that retain moisture and lead to the exact bug you`re trying to caput off).
If you become this road, buy a lot more than you need. I`ve only used it for small-scale jobs, simply people who`ve done whole frames/etc. say they go through a ton of it by the fourth dimension they`re finished.
But I`d sure get all that sand out first, which might be a huge challenge. Don`t want it to stay in there where it tin retain moisture. And that brings us to that greasy stuff.
Too bad Ron Ketcham isn`t posting here these days, he`d know whether that "greasy" stuff is factory rustproofing or not. I kinda doubtable that it *is* (as opposed to clay/dirt) merely I merely don`t know. I`d call up twice about doing a thorough degreasing for that reason.
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09-17-2016,09:02 AM #4
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in information technology. Advice needed
Cheers guys.
Do you remember it`d be a bad idea to force per unit area wash inside the frame rail? My other thought was to utilize a cream gun (I have both depression and high force per unit area versions) and flush out the frame track with a `launder & wax` type product.
I actually bought a couple of cans of that Eastwood stuff for the trailer hitch. Good to know it`s a solid production. Aside from the cost savings, how would this stack upward to a professionally applied coating? In that location are plenty of truck and off-road shops local to me.
Going to get an inspection camera in at that place today and see how it all looks.
The sand I`ve removed so far has come out very easily with water - information technology`south dried/hardened but a garden hose softens information technology upward instantly. The clay baked on the frazzle is another story... Maybe I should merely savour my `organic ceramic coated` exhaust`
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09-17-2016,eleven:00 AM #five
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in information technology. Communication needed
Wolfe- I don`t see any problem foaming/etc. in at that place as long as you`re planning on having some product applied anyway, but OTOH if simply rinsing information technology is sufficient then that`s all I`d exercise before inspecting with the camera. I wouldn`t use a "wash + wax" product considering I wouldn`t want anything like the "wax" (however minimal it might be) in in that location potentially interfering with some kind of rust treatment.
Glad to hear the frame is cleaning up OK, I`d only do parts of the exhaust that show.
I`d see what the inspection camera shows you (isn`t today`due south tech just smashing?!?)
Hard to compare DIY/Pro since information technology`south so dependent on the person doing the work. IF (potentially a big "if") the Pro does a really good task that would probably be better if only because his experience oughta factor in big-fourth dimension whereas you`d be learning on the job. And if they guarantee their work...
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09-17-2016,11:31 PM #half dozen
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
Thank you. I was able to flush one side once more today and got even more than sand out. Pulled the rear bicycle well liner and gave all that a skilful clean also. Pressure level washer really helped.
My inspection camera broke function way through, only before it did I hand`t meet much rust on the inside. Got a new ane on the way. I did notice a couple of seams at the front end seemed to look a niggling rusty, which I`d like to tackle before they get worse. Wondering if I should try and get some rust convertor into the seam via capillary action, or if I should try something else. I am going to take a hard fourth dimension getting to both sides of some of these seams I think.
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09-18-2016,11:21 AM #7
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Communication needed
wolfe- While I find information technology OK for some stuff, Rust Converters aren`t actually all that useful to me and that`s not the approach I`d get with for that.
But you`re absolutely on the correct track, thinking most getting the product down in in that location.
Eastwood`southward Frame Coater stuff or some other such product that wicks well. I used KBS`s Crenel Coater on a similar issue (Tahoe rear barn door) and so far then good, but the thinner Eastwood Frame stuff would probably wick down into the seam better.
If the product does wick down into the seam well, you should get OK protection even though you tin can only admission ane side.
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09-18-2016,02:48 PM #8
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in information technology. Communication needed
Ah, cheers. I wasn`t certain how viscous the Eastwood stuff is. I`thou bold you can use it without the tube, as a regular spray can for the outside surfaces?
Might yous have whatsoever suggestions on how to prep the inside of the frame sections for the Eastwood spray please? I have access to a pressure washer (electric), pressure level washer cream cannon on a long attachment, garden hose foam cannon on a short attachment, compressed air, leaf blower, and bike ramps.
I`m nonetheless getting some residue sand and the greasy dirt stuff, so I plan on flushing it a few more than times. New inspection camera volition be hither this week and so that`ll help determine when it`due south clean. I`thou unsure how aggressive I need to exist in terms of detergent choice before I utilize the eastwood spray - from plain h2o to carwash soap, dawn, degreasers etc.
Thank you very much for the assist on this.
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09-xviii-2016,03:57 PM #ix
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
Wolfe- The Frame Coater is *And so* sparse and watery that the word "glutinous" doesn`t even come to my mind!
I never tried it without the tube (my can went *fast*, lucky I got done what I needed to, so BTW you`ll need plenty of information technology) but even if information technology works OK I`d lean (strongly) towards their Black Heavy Duty Anti-Rust for that instead. For areas that show it actually is swell stuff, looks far more "pigment-like" than yous`d expect from a "rustproofing" production. I`ve ended up used it on frames/etc. that testify even though I had originally planned to pigment them.
The Frame Coater is so thin that it`south actually messy stuff that can *really* get everywhere. Good for tight seams and coverage in areas where you lot can`t see what yous`re doing, non and so good for other applications. And...thought occurs tome.... it won`t exit as thick a build-motion-picture show equally I recall you`ll want for the seams.
Run into- now I`grand a little ??? virtually the seams you pictured now that I recall about it, if just because of that "oh then sparse and runny and messy" aspect of the frame coater. If those seams are on the "outside"/areas that show, I`d probably use the Black HDAR. It`s viscosity oughta allow adept wicking into the seam. Information technology`due south not some "thick undercoating" stuff IMO.
Sorry to audio like I`m flip-flopping on y'all, but that`s the sort of thing that`d give me fits trying to effigy out...fifty-fifty if it were sitting right here in forepart of me, I`d just be scratching my head nearly information technology.
If it were mine, I`d simply keep flushing it (plain water) and meet what the new camera shows. I`d probably plan to utilise the Frame Coater in the frame track and the Black HDAR for everything else.
Since both Eastwood products can be used in split up sessions (not like you have to do it all at one fourth dimension lest you have "bonding to previous awarding" bug), I retrieve I`d buy one can of each and exercise some experimenting to run across what`s gonna satisfy *you* best since IMO there are all sorts of Personal Preference issues that can cistron in also just picking the (presumably) all-time one for the job (which might actually be a few different but similar jobs when it comes right down to information technology).
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09-18-2016,09:30 PM #10
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
Great info, thanks.
And then if I`thousand understanding correctly - frame coating on all internal areas I can get to, and HDAR sprayed on the outside of all areas?
Should I too use HDAR to the internal areas over the meridian of the frame coating, if I can get to it?
Are these the right two products:
frame blanket (I accept 2 cans of the blackness already)
Eastwood Internal Frame Coating 14oz DropletsHDAR
Heavy-Duty Anti-Rust in Blackness - EastwoodI can deal with it beingness messy if it`southward going to give me the best shot at neutralizing the rust and protecting the frame for the long term. It`southward interesting to see over the whole truck, that Dodge decided to seal certain seams but not others.
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09-nineteen-2016,05:52 AM #11
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Communication needed
I wonder where this vehicle has been.
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09-19-2016,07:07 AM #12
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Communication needed
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09-19-2016,12:07 PM #13
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Wolfe- yes, those are the 2 products.
Note that Eastwood`southward Pre is a very good solvent for prepping and cleaning up, just in example you don`t already have a fave or something picked out at the local autobody/pigment supply shop.
I don`t know about layering the two products, I`ve wondered about that myself. If you call (rather than order online) I bet somebody at Eastwood could tell u.s.a. about that. They might have some good opinions about which-for-what too.
As for "what information technology`s been through!?!", I bet somebody just used it like a Truck, as in "no scary story". When I got my beater-Tahoe its frame/etc. had a *LOT* of gravel in it; when I got my current Crown Vic its undercarriage had obviously been subjected to a *LOT* of difficult use on limestone gravel/chip-and-seal roads...some vehicles only get used in not-Autopian weather and it`s not always the Kiss of Death.
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09-19-2016,12:31 PM #14
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Advice needed
wolfe - Thank you for posting this
Accumulator - Thanks for all the feedback! I`m sure that beater Jeep of mine will have similar issues! Information technology`south originally a WA state vehicle.
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09-19-2016,06:58 PM #15
Re: new (to me) vehicle, frame has lots of sand in it. Communication needed
Someone hinted at it before, merely yous might take a reputable shop do a quick check to see if you got a flood-damaged car. Mayhap not, but better that you know early for appropriate recourse.
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